FLORIDA: Permitless / Constitutional Carry, Be careful what you wish for

Gov. DeSantis wants to see constitutional carry implemented in Florida

Convictions For Unlawfully Carrying Guns Skyrocket After Texas Passed Constitutional Carry

December 20, 2022

On September 1, 2021, Texas’ “permitless carry” law took effect. Since then, there have been a 550% increase in unlawful carrying of a weapon convictions. That is “convictions” not arrests.

Gov. DeSantis wants to see constitutional carry implemented in Florida

AUSTIN, Texas ― Few people are more enthusiastic about carrying handguns than Mike Cargill. The owner of Central Texas Gun Works often carries three ― two concealed, plus one holstered outside his belt.

He’s also enthusiastic about handgun education. Even after the Republican-dominated state legislature passed a “constitutional carry” law, which allows Texans to carry handguns both openly and concealed without getting a license, Cargill kept teaching classes and range qualifications for the now-optional License to Carry Program (LTC). Cargill says a license offers a lot of benefits, not least of which is helping people navigate the state’s complicated gun laws.

And since Texas became one of about half of the states in the country that view carrying a gun as a constitutional right, it looks like people are getting confused by those complicated laws. Several of Cargill’s students over the last year and a half signed up for an LTC class hoping to avoid conviction for unlawfully carrying a weapon ― usually after taking a gun somewhere they shouldn’t have.

When Cargill checked the Texas Department of Public Safety’s website, he found that his experience wasn’t an anomaly. Convictions for unlawfully carrying weapons skyrocketed in the state, from 1,049 in 2020 to nearly 7,000 last yeara spike of 550% and the highest number by far since 2016, the last year of complete data. The state adopted the constitutional carry law in September 2021.

“Yes, it’s your right to carry a gun,” Cargill said. “But you have to know how to carry that gun. If not, that’s a problem.”

No Obvious Explanation

It’s not clear why convictions for unlawfully carrying a weapon have risen so sharply. HuffPost reached out to several local law enforcement agencies asking for an answer. Few responded. Those that did hadn’t noticed the trend, though some agreed with Cargill that confusion might help account for it.

The “apparent rise in unlawful carrying cases across the state is alarming,” Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg wrote in an email to HuffPost.

“In Harris County, we seem to have filed more than one charge against some suspects which indicates that defendants freed on bond have been charged with the same crime more than once,” Ogg wrote. “Around the rest of the state, they may have the same problem or it could be something else, such as a lack of education about the constitutional carry laws or other laws regarding the possession of firearms.”

Although permitless carry sounds simple, gun laws are complicated. Even under the new law, places like airports, courthouses, hospitals and schools generally don’t allow weapons. Private businesses can also prohibit people from bringing in guns, either by displaying a sign or warning people verbally.

In theory, you can’t bring a gun into a place that earns more than 51% of its revenue from alcohol. But in practice, you can take a gun into a bar if the bar’s liquor license classifies it as a restaurant, which requires checking the Texas Alcohol Beverage Control’s website.

Permitless carry added a new layer of complexity by creating two classes of people allowed to carry handguns ― those with licenses and those relying on the constitution.

The most commonly cited perks of getting a license are that it allows the holder to concealed carry in most other states, and license holders only have to submit federal background checks for application and renewal, instead of every time they buy a gun.

But the law favors LTC holders in many other ways. Carrying a gun with a blood alcohol content of up to 0.08 is legal for license holders. Without one, drinking any alcohol at all while carrying a gun is illegal. An LTC exempts the license holder from the restriction on carrying a gun within 1,000 feet of a school under federal law (though bringing one inside a school building generally remains illegal).

The once-required classes explain all these details. Those carrying a gun because they read a news article saying they can, might not know, for example, unholstering a handgun while inside a car and leaving it in plain view is a crime.

Still, it’s not clear how confusion alone would translate into more gun charges. If someone’s doing a decent job concealing the handgun, they’re not likely to get caught with it.

Instead, many people are charged with unlawfully carrying a weapon only after police arrest them for something else, according to attorney Shane Phelps ― usually drinking and driving, or possession of marijuana.

The only people Phelps regularly sees with unlawfully carrying a weapon as their only charge are felons caught with guns. But Texas tallies the crime of possessing a gun despite a felony conviction separately from unlawfully carrying a weapon.

“That’s kind of a shocking statistic to me ― I don’t have an explanation for it,” Phelps said, referring to the increase in charges. “It’s really hard right now in Texas to get arrested for just carrying a weapon.”

The introduction of permitless carry may not account for the shift, given that it can take several months to cycle defendants from charging to conviction. The data increase could also be due to a historic and sustained spike in gun sales that started during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Harris County, for example, showed a clear rise in unlawfully carrying a weapon dating back to 2019, with the number of people charged more than doubling in two years to 4,454. Incomplete numbers for this year were on track to slightly exceed last year.

For the complete story, go to: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/12/28/states-try-curb-mass-shootings-bullets-ammo-laws/10760437002/

CONSUMER ALERT – Florida Concealed Carry Classes Conducted At Local Hotels

Information provided as a community service.

Beware of CONCEALED CARRY CLASSES conducted in rented hotel rooms!

What those who conduct such classes at local hotels do not want you to know:

  • They are NOT local providers or instructors.  They are from out of town and in most instances, from out of state.
  • They do NOT provide any handgun instruction or training.
  • There is NO live-fire range time or training.  If the class is conducted in a rented hotel room, you fire one paint cartridge at a paper target taped to a cardboard box.  No hotel is going to allow you or anyone to fire a real gun inside the hotel.
  • They may not be licensed to conduct business where they are conducting classes.

Before registering for a concealed carry class and paying your money, do your homework, ask questions.

  • What firearm training is provided in the class?  Will you be taught how to correctly use and fire a firearm?
  • What range does the provider use for the training?
  • How many rounds of ammunition will you fire during your training?
  • What are the instructor’s credentials?
  • Is the certificate of training issued recognized by the State of Florida for applying for a Florida concealed carry weapons license?
  • Is the class provider licensed to conduct business in the city and county where the class is conducted?
  • What is the class provider’s business address?  Who do you contact if there is a problem with your paperwork after you complete the class?
  • Is there a local phone number to call?
  • Is the class provider licensed and insured?
  • Will the class instructor or provider attempt to sell you insurance?  Ever been to a timeshare presentation?
  • Will the class instructor or provider attempt to sell you books or other materials?

If you do not ask the questions above, you have little to no regard for the training you receive and your hard earned money.  

You can ask the questions above and get the concealed carry/firearms training you want or pay the out-of-town providers once and pay again to get a class and training that provides you necessary training to make you confident and proficient in the use of a firearm to defend your life and the lives of your loved ones.

Not all concealed carry classes are alike.  There is a definite difference.  Do your homework, ask questions and shop around.

Good Guy With Gun Stops Bad Guy With Gun Preventing Mass Shooting

NO “concealed carry” class is going to train you in the use of a handgun. You need to take a handgun/firearm training class for that.

Greenwood Mall, Greenwood, Indiana – July 17, 2022

  • Shots fired (good guy) 10 rounds
  • Distance: 120 feet
  • Shots hitting target (bad guy): 8
  • Time span: 15 seconds

There is more to owning and carrying a gun than just knowing how to pull the trigger.

Allow us to make you proficient in the use of your gun. We conduct both basic and advanced handgun training, concealed carry classes, rifle and shotgun classes.

It should be understood that no “concealed carry” class is going to train you in the use of a handgun. You need to take a handgun/firearm training class for that.

Sheriff Grady Judd: “If you are not afraid of a gun, get one.”

It should be understood that NO “concealed carry” class is going to train you in the use of a handgun. You need to take a handgun/firearm training class for that.

If the class you are considering taking does not specifically state that it is going to train you in the use, operation and firing of a handgun, it is not going to.

See our course descriptions at: https://ingaugeofpolkcounty.com/course-titles/ or call us at: 863-206-1996 for class availability.

Armed robber shot, killed by customer at convenience store

“. . . the 26-year-old suspect shot by a customer during that attempted robbery.”

July 16, 2022 – By Kelsee Ward and Jordan Gartner – KSLA New 12

https://www.ksla.com/2022/07/16/armed-robber-shot-killed-by-customer-convenience-store-police-say/

ST. CHARLES, Mo. (KMOV/Gray News) – Police in Missouri are investigating a violent crime spree in St. Charles that ended with an armed robber being shot and killed.

The St. Charles Police Department reports the crime spree started during the early morning hours on Saturday at a convenience store where a 26-year-old went into the business with a knife and told the clerk he was robbing her.

Police said the man held the knife to the clerk’s throat while she opened the register. He then pushed the clerk to the floor and stole money from the register. He dragged her toward the back of the store, asking the location of the safe.

According to authorities, the clerk did not have access to the safe, so the thief forced the worker to open a second register before stealing that cash and leaving the scene.

Officials said first responders took the clerk to a hospital for lacerations on her left wrist, right hand and neck.

Police said they were on their way to that scene when reports of another armed robbery came in at a Phillips 66 gas station. Officers said they found broken glass that looked like a burglary had occurred.

St. Charles police said a third burglary call then came in regarding an armed robbery at a QuikTrip convenience store where shots had been fired.

According to police, arriving officers found the 26-year-old suspect shot by a customer during that attempted robbery. First responders took the suspected thief to the hospital, where he later died.

Authorities said they interviewed the customer, a 26-year-old man, who told police he stopped at the gas station to use the restroom and buy something. However, he was walking back to his car from the store when he saw a black SUV drive quickly into the parking lot.

The customer said he saw a man carrying a backpack while running into the store and threatening the clerk with a knife, according to police.

Officials said the 26-year-old customer grabbed his gun and went back into the store. He then confronted the thief, who grabbed for his backpack.

According to authorities, the suspect reportedly told the customer, “I have something for you,” and came around the counter when he was shot and killed by the customer.

Investigators said the customer and the clerk were both uninjured in the incident and the suspect’s car came back as stolen in an armed robbery on Friday, with stolen items also found in the vehicle.

Armed Good Guy Stops Active Shooter During Indiana Mall Shooting

This is how it should be done!

July 18, 2022

A gunman killed 3 people at an Indiana mall before he was shot dead by an armed bystander.

Investigators believe the unidentified gunman, an adult man, was shot and killed by a lawfully armed 22-year-old man who “observed the shooting in progress,” Ison said.

Greenwood Police Chief Jim Ison

“But I’m going to tell you, the real hero of the day is the citizen that was lawfully carrying a firearm in that food court and was able to stop this shooter almost as soon as he began,” Ison said.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/17/us/indiana-greenwood-park-mall-shooting/index.html

On Sunday evening, Meyers also thanked the person who fatally shot the gunman during the attack.

“This person saved lives tonight,” the mayor said in another statement. “On behalf of the City of Greenwood, I am grateful for his quick action and heroism in this situation.”

Florida: Homeowner Defends Self Against 3 Armed Home Invaders

3 wanted for home invasion in Escambia County, Florida

Escambia County Sheriff’s Office releases surveillance video of Pensacola home invasion, seeking three suspects

July 13, 2022

The Escambia County Sheriff’s Office released surveillance of a July 7 home invasion showing four men invading and attacking a resident on Pinestead Road.

According to an ECSO Facebook post release, three males approached the front door of the home, and when the victim unlocked the door, two of the three men pushed him into the house and attacked him. The third male then pulled a handgun from his pants and waited outside.

“During this home invasion, the victim’s pistol fell to the ground and was picked up by one of the invaders,” the release notes. “The victim ran to the back room of the house where he had another firearm and began firing at his intruders.”

The three intruders “ran frantically from the home to their vehicle where the fourth suspect was waiting and drove off, hitting a mailbox.”

The release noted that suspect Da’Torrance Hackworth was arrested in connection with the home invasion for use or display of a firearm during a felony, possession of a firearm by a felon, larceny, grand theft of a firearm and robbery or home invasion with a firearm.

FLORIDA RESIDENTS – A concealed carry license is NOT required

What those who conduct ‘concealed carry’ classes do not want you to know:
In Florida . . .

  • NO license is required to purchase or own a firearm.
  • NO license is required to transport a loaded firearm in your vehicle. (However, one must know how to do so legally.)
  • NO license is required to use a firearm to defend your life and home.
  • NO license is required to take a firearms training course to learn how to use a firearm.

Why do we inform you of this?

We are not in the ‘concealed carry class’ business.  Rather, we are a non-profit organization that conducts self-defense, firearms training.   We want you to be trained in the safe handling, use and storage of your firearm.

Unless specifically stated that firearm/handgun training is included, NO firearm/handgun training is conducted in a ‘concealed carry‘ class. Basically, NO ‘concealed carry‘ class includes any significant handgun training.

Possessing a concealed carry license does not mean you are trained to carry a deadly weapon in public.  Rather, it only demonstrates that you paid the State of Florida $97 and passed a background check.

We want you to be trained in the handling, use and firing of a firearm for the defense of your life and the lives of your loved ones.

All our firearms training classes exceed the training requirements for applying for a Florida concealed carry license.  Upon successful completion of any of our firearms training classes, an official certificate of training is issued good for applying for a Florida concealed carry weapons license.  No other class or training is required for applying for a Florida license recognized in 37 states.

Even if you do not possess a concealed carry license or you never intend to apply for one, allow us to train you in the purchasing, handling, use, firing and storage of your firearm.

Considering taking a concealed carry class? You may want to consider this . . .

There is more to owning and using a gun than just knowing how to pull a trigger.

Not all concealed carry classes are alike.

Unless specifically stated otherwise, “concealed carry classes” do NOT teach how to handle and use a handgun.

They do NOT teach:

  • the handling of a handgun
  • the firing of a handgun
  • the loading, unloading and reloading of a handgun
  • how manage handgun malfunfunctions

To learn the techniques listed above, you have to take a handgun/pistol training class.

Maybe you or someone you know already took a concealed carry class. Did it look like this . . .

or like this?

If the “concealed carry” class you took did not include a trip the the range and the firing of a real handgun, using live ammunition, firing a minimum of 50 rounds, you attended a certificate mill class, that in all likelyhood, was more of an insurance sales seminar, not a handgun training class.

There is more to owning and using a gun than just knowing how to pull a trigger.

Others conduct classes to qualify people to apply for a concealed carry license. We conduct classes to not only to qualify people to apply for a concealed carrry license, we train people to carry a firearm in public.

We don’t want to train everyone who wants a concealed carry license.  We only want to train those who are serious about learning how to defend their life and the lives of their loved ones.

If your concealed carry class did not look like the photos above, you may want to contact us for real, concealed carry, handgun training. Training that prepares you to defend your life and the lives of your loved ones.

Not all concealed carry classes are alike.


Considering taking a concealed carry class? You may want to consider this . . .

We don’t want to train everyone who wants a concealed carry license.  We only want to train those who are serious about learning how to defend their life and the lives of their loved ones.

Not all concealed carry classes are alike.

Unless specifically stated otherwise, “concealed carry classes” do NOT teach how to handle and use a handgun.

They do NOT teach:

  • the handling of a handgun
  • the firing of a handgun
  • the loading, unloading and reloading of a handgun
  • how manage handgun malfunfunctions

To learn the techniques listed above, you have to take a handgun/pistol training class.

Maybe you or someone you know already took a concealed carry class. Did it look like this . . .

or like this?

If the “concealed carry” class you took did not include a trip the the range and the firing of a real handgun, using live ammunition, firing a minimum of 50 rounds, you attended a certificate mill class, that in all likelyhood, was more of an insurance sales seminar, not a handgun training class.

There is more to owning and using a gun than just knowing how to pull a trigger.

Others conduct classes to qualify people to apply for a concealed carry license. We conduct classes to not only to qualify people to apply for a concealed carrry license, we train people to carry a firearm in public.

We don’t want to train everyone who wants a concealed carry license.  We only want to train those who are serious about learning how to defend their life and the lives of their loved ones.

If your concealed carry class did not look like the photos above, you may want to contact us for real, concealed carry, handgun training. Training that prepares you to defend your life and the lives of your loved ones.

Not all concealed carry classes are alike.


FLORIDA RESIDENTS – A concealed carry license is NOT required

Why do we inform you of this?

What those who conduct ‘concealed carry’ classes do not want you to know:
In Florida . . .

  • NO license is required to purchase or own a firearm.
  • NO license is required to transport a loaded firearm in your vehicle. (However, one must know how to do so legally.)
  • NO license is required to use a firearm to defend your life and home.
  • NO license is required to take a firearms training course to learn how to use a firearm.

Why do we inform you of this?

We are not in the ‘concealed carry class’ business.  Rather, we are in the self-defense, firearms training business.   We want you to be trained in the safe handling, use and storage of your firearm.

Unless specifically stated that firearm/handgun training is included, NO firearm/handgun training is conducted in a ‘concealed carry‘ class. Basically, NO ‘concealed carry‘ class includes any significant handgun training.

Possessing a concealed carry license does not mean you are trained to carry a deadly weapon in public.  Rather, it only demonstrates that you paid the State of Florida $97 and passed a background check.

We want you to be trained in the handling, use and firing of a firearm for the defense of your life and the lives of your loved ones.

All our firearms training classes exceed the training requirements for applying for a Florida concealed carry license.  Upon successful completion of any of our firearms training classes, an official certificate of training is issued good for applying for a Florida concealed carry weapons license.  No other class or training is required for applying for a Florida license recognized in 37 states.

Even if you do not possess a concealed carry license or you never intend to apply for one, allow us to train you in the purchasing, handling, use, firing and storage of your firearm.